Lorde And Tavi Gevinson Talk Everything From Haircare to Beyoncé
Don't color us shocked that fellow 17-year-olds and respective prodigies Tavi Gevinson (fashion and creative wunderkind) and Lorde (commanding songstress) are somewhat soul sisters. As Gevinson details in her latest issue of Rookie Mag, the two have more in common than their impressively young success. While Gevinson and Lorde (who just held an impromptu Ask Me Anything session on Reddit) first met in October, various mishaps fiercely feared by us journalist types (read: noisy setting, broken recorder, etc.) created a less than ideal interview setting. But when the two arranged a re-do via Skype in December, girl crush sparks flew—and why wouldn't they?
In this Q&A, the two spent more than two hours discussing everything from Lorde's enviously minimal haircare routine to their shopping habits and songwriting to—no surprise!—their shared adoration for Beyoncé. While you can—and should—read the full interview here, we've pulled out the chat's five most buzzworthy quotes for you to peruse, right here.
1. Lorde, on Beyoncé's new album: "I will admit that I haven’t purchased it yet, so I haven’t seen all the videos in full, but I was just blown away by the creativity. I would cry if I had to make that much visual content for an album! Just on that level, it’s phenomenal. But it also just feels like the album that I have wanted to hear from Beyoncé for such a long time, and I’m so happy that it has happened. I liked what you guys said about her not being afraid to let her feminism evolve, and you can hear that in this record, which I think is so important and such a hard thing to bare. It feels really personal."
2. Gevinson, on early success: "I remember when people started paying attention to what I was doing, and it was like, 'She should be getting knocked up like all the other kids her age!' It’s like, you complain when you think teenagers are stupid, and then when they try to do something, you’re all, 'Oh, they’re growing up too fast, they don’t know what’s good for them.'"
3. Lorde, on her style: "Ever since I was a kid, I’ve been into clothes, but not really labels—that’s kind of only been in the last year or so...I used to just constantly thrift and make stuff and cut stuff up and borrow my dad’s stuff and borrow my little brother’s stuff and all that jazz. I guess that approach means that I’ll wear something from 1992 to a red carpet event because I have no concept of 'this is current' or whatever..A lot of ’90s fashion isn’t simple, but, for example, Kate Moss in the Calvin Klein ads, or a white T-shirt and black pants, just that kind of clean, powerful aesthetic—that’s what I’m really drawn to."
"I recently bought this Acne jacket. I’m gonna go put it on. I’ve just started buying kind of brand-y stuff, but I get too scared because I’m like, 'This is so expensive, I can’t justify it.'"
4. Gevinson, on feminism: "What I’ve learned is that the answer isn’t to retreat into ignorance, but to find the ways in which it’s important to you and talk about that and help other women talk about their experiences too. Just finding the human part of it is what I find myself coming back to when I feel disillusioned with feminism as a community. It’s complicated."
5. And finally, Lorde, on that hair: "The trick for me is, don’t wash your hair that much. I wash my hair a couple times a week, sometimes once a week, sometimes once every two weeks. You shouldn’t do that, readers at home, ’cause this is a unique type of straw I’ve got going on here. But also I use product: I use one called Potion 9 by Sebastian, but it's expensive, so just find some sort of like creamy situation and scrunch it into your hair when it’s wet and then let it dry. No blow-drying, no brushing."